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DOING NOTHING IS ALSO A DECISION

Credits: JP.

Credits: JP.

DOING NOTHING IS ALSO A DECISION

James Pattison
Professor of Politics, University of Manchester

Credits: JP.

Why was I interested in interviewing James? He is a British political theorist and Professor of Politics at the University of Manchester whose work focuses on the ethics of global peace and security. His research lies at the intersection of political philosophy and international relations, particularly on issues such as just war theory, humanitarian intervention, the Responsibility to Protect (R2P), sanctions, and alternatives to military force. James has authored several influential books with Oxford University Press—including Humanitarian Intervention and the Responsibility to Protect (2010), The Morality of Private War (2014), and The Alternatives to War (2018)—and has published widely in leading journals such as International Studies Quarterly and the Journal of Political Philosophy. His scholarship examines when states have moral duties to act in response to mass atrocities and how political actors should balance ethical principles with the realities of global politics.

This interview is particularly interesting because it connects abstract political theory with real-world ethical dilemmas in politics, war, and global responsibility. Rather than presenting moral philosophy as a purely academic exercise, James reflects on how ethical ideas influence policy debates—from humanitarian intervention to authoritarianism—and how scholars must think carefully about the real-world consequences of their arguments. The conversation also offers an unusually candid look at teaching political theory today: how students grapple with moral compromise, how political role models shape civic engagement, and why critical thinking remains essential in an age of populism, misinformation, and AI. By blending personal reflection with broader philosophical questions, the interview illustrates how political theory can illuminate both the practice of politics and the responsibilities of citizens in a complex global world.

Here’s our exchange:

Where are you originally from, and what aspects of your childhood there most shaped who you are today?

I grew up in a town on the edge of South London, part of the sprawl of 1930s housing that characterises much of the region. The area was somewhat humdrum and, like much of South London, marked by inequality and racial tension in the 1980s and 1990s. Many of my friends from primary and secondary school endured vile racist abuse and lived in very cramped, multi-generational households in rundown housing—often on estates that have since been demolished. Witnessing these experiences up close left a lasting impression on me, shaping an enduring awareness of injustice as well as a deeper appreciation of the relative privilege I had.

How would you describe your family environment growing up, and who were the most influential figures in your early life?

I grew up with my parents and two older siblings. We struggled financially for many years. My father, who had trained as a microbiologist, left his job to start his own business in transport journalism, but the business struggled to generate much income. My mother taught evening classes at the local college to help make ends meet, and her strong focus on education pushed all three of us to pursue academic paths (my sister was recently appointed the first Professor of Nursing at Imperial).

I spent much more time with my father than many children my age did with theirs, and he was—and remains—deeply committed to supporting charities and helping others. I also remember numerous family discussions about the Khmer Rouge genocide, as well as watching the films The Killing Fields and The Mission.

Were there particular family or cultural traditions that played a lasting role in shaping your values or worldview?

My grandfather was a Methodist minister. Although we were not a religious family—I stopped believing around the age of 10 or 11 and soon discovered that my parents also had significant doubts—we were nonetheless raised with core values centred on confronting injustice and caring for the suffering of others. These values were strongly influenced by my grandfather.

I also remember long discussions at my grandfather’s house about national and international politics, involving my father, his brothers, and later my older brother. These values, along with an interest in national and international politics and the challenge of addressing injustice, have continued to motivate me and other members of my family.

What initially drew you to the field you chose to study, and was there a moment when you realized it was the right path for you?

I chose to study Politics, though I was initially interested primarily in international politics. In my late teens I read The Death of Yugoslavia, about the breakdown of Yugoslavia in the 1990s, which sparked a strong interest in international conflict. I also developed a particular interest in sub-Saharan Africa and backpacked around East Africa on my own for two months when I was 18.

At first, I was very unsure whether I had chosen the right field, since I had focused mainly on the sciences at school. But my confidence grew once I began taking modules in political theory. I had not realised that political theory would form part of the degree, but I found that I greatly enjoyed the analytical and critical thinking involved.

At what age did you begin working, and what did your first job teach you about responsibility or independence?

I had various part-time jobs, but the main one was in a high-street shop called Woolworths, where I worked between the ages of 17 and 20. I was initially hired as temporary staff for Christmas but was then kept on.

On one occasion I pretended to be sick so I could attend a major international football match between Scotland and England. It soon became obvious where I was—I had phoned in from the train—and I was subjected to disciplinary procedures. I felt that I had undermined my responsibility to my line manager, who had treated me very well beforehand and later defended me strongly when Woolworths was considering dismissing me. Since then, I have tried to make sure that I never let down people who have shown loyalty and trust in me.

How would you describe your current professional role, and what aspects of it do you find most meaningful?

I am a Professor of Politics. Despite the challenges currently facing the higher education sector, I enjoy my role very much, particularly because it allows a great deal of independence in pursuing my research interests. In many ways, I would want to read the books I work on—about war, intervention, authoritarianism, atrocities, and political philosophy—even if I did not have this job.

One of the most rewarding aspects of the role is teaching, especially our third-year undergraduates, who are generally motivated, perceptive, and very bright. Although it can be tempting to complain about students, it is a privilege to help educate and work with them, many of whom will go on to become leaders in their fields. They want to understand the world more deeply: the challenges we face, the possible responses, and the complexities surrounding them. Seeing them engage with the ideas we discuss and apply these arguments themselves is something I miss when I am not teaching.

How has your research on the ethics of war, intervention, and responsibility reshaped conventional assumptions about when political action becomes morally obligatory rather than merely permissible?

It is often assumed that states should have a free choice about whether to act when mass atrocities occur, focusing mainly on whether their interests are involved. I have sought to challenge this assumption by writing about responsibilities to intervene—or to take other forms of action—including which agents hold these responsibilities and the reasons they do so.

This work has helped develop ideas found in the doctrine of the Responsibility to Protect (R2P) and, more recently, in emerging norms around mass atrocity prevention. In doing so, it provides a much firmer basis for the claim that action should be taken to address atrocities covered by these frameworks.

To what extent does your work challenge the idea that political morality can remain neutral in the face of large-scale injustice?

Much of my work emphasises that standing by in the face of mass atrocities is morally impermissible. I argue that it is wrong to allow fellow human beings to suffer when something can be done—there are humanitarian duties to act even beyond one’s own borders. Moreover, previous and ongoing injustices by powerful Western and non-Western actors reinforce and magnify these responsibilities.

My most recent work also emphasises the responsibility to confront rising global authoritarianism. Authoritarianism not only undermines democracy worldwide, but also exacerbates many of the challenges the world faces, including those related to human rights, climate change, global poverty, and disease. Much of the current analysis of populism and authoritarianism focuses on their domestic effects—on democracy within individual countries. What is often overlooked are the wider global consequences, particularly for humanitarianism and human rights, especially for the most vulnerable. One clear manifestation of this has been the severe weakening of the humanitarian aid system over the past two years.

Do you see students’ engagement with politics today as driven more by moral outrage than by sustained ethical reasoning, and how does that affect how you teach political theory?

Some students are motivated by moral outrage, although this is still preferable to the apathy that often predominated in the past. In my teaching, I try to present the complex ethical and political arguments on both sides of contentious issues, emphasising that many problems are genuinely difficult and morally vexing.

I often organise my teaching around cases where there are no clear ethical answers—for example, whether sanctions should be imposed despite claims that they are ineffective and can have damaging humanitarian consequences, or whether states should condemn serious human rights violations abroad when they themselves have committed such violations.

Has the polarization of contemporary politics made students more ethically engaged or more reluctant to defend unpopular but principled positions?

Students today are generally more ethically engaged than in the past, and many are drawn to positions that are socially further to the left than those of previous generations (though not always economically). Most express strong opposition to leading populist figures and see their actions as the opposite of what should be done politically. At the same time, I try to ensure that my classes remain open and welcoming to students of all political persuasions.

How do you encourage students to grapple seriously with moral compromise rather than seeking ethically “pure” political stances?

Students are sometimes attracted to absolutist positions and may dismiss questions about the effectiveness of policies addressing human rights violations or atrocities as merely technical matters. I try to show them that ethical theory suggests otherwise: the likely consequences of actions matter for almost all ethical frameworks, including those that are deontological.

As a result, we should consider the expected outcomes for morally significant goals—such as the protection of human rights—alongside more intrinsic or “pure” moral considerations. When viewed in this way, compromise can sometimes represent the most ethically defensible solution, all things considered.

In what ways does your research complicate the tendency to view intervention, activism, or resistance as inherently virtuous?

In my research, I argue that most wars and military interventions have been morally unjustified for a range of reasons, including their likely disproportionality and their lack of support among the populations they are intended to help. This view is widely shared among scholars in my field.

My more distinctive contribution has been through my work on alternatives to war. I examine the range of measures that may be used in place of military intervention, including sanctions, diplomacy, nonviolent resistance, and positive incentives. My work shows that all of these measures—often seen as morally cleaner alternatives—raise difficult ethical challenges, from causing unintended harms to serving as a fig leaf for avoiding more robust action. None is a panacea, even if, in some circumstances, they may be more justified than military intervention.

Are students today more interested in judging political actors than in imagining themselves as morally responsible agents within politics?

Some students hold strong, fixed views about political figures, particularly those on the centre-left who are seen as compromising too readily. In my teaching, we often use role-play scenarios in which students consider how they would act in particular positions—for example, whether they would undertake a military intervention, contribute to a peacekeeping mission, or offer incentives that might help resolve a crisis but would also financially and politically reward those responsible for abuses.

Although a few students believe that such roles should involve simply weighing interests and pursuing realpolitik rather than considering moral arguments, most are willing to engage seriously with the ethical dilemmas these scenarios present. Very few adopt absolutist positions; instead, they tend to think carefully about both the likely consequences and the relevant moral principles.

What responsibilities do political theorists have when their work is used to justify real-world harm or coercion?

I have often been frustrated when philosophers writing on war and other political issues adopt an archaic and misleading ivory-tower view of academia—one that completely separates scholarly writing from its real-world impact. I believe we have a responsibility to consider the likely effects of our work when communicating and publishing it, particularly with specific audiences in mind.

For some audiences, this may mean heavily qualifying claims that could easily be misunderstood and, at times, even reframing an argument if those qualifications are likely to be ignored. Political theorists also need to pay greater attention to non-ideal arguments, considering how their positions are likely to play out in the real world—where compliance with prescriptions is often partial, circumstances are difficult, and ethical norms may be abused. My own work has sought to take these non-ideal considerations seriously without making the tempting move of rejecting ethical norms altogether because of small risks of their abuse.

How has the decline of widely admired political role models affected students’ willingness to see politics as a space for ethical action rather than cynicism?

I am not convinced that there has been a dramatic decline in political role models, although the failings of the Blair government did generate significant cynicism in the UK for a time. More recently, figures such as Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn, and now Zack Polanski have helped reinvigorate some hope in politics. On the Right, many right-wing populists also command strong support from their followers, who believe they are acting in the public interest. Personally, I would sometimes prefer far greater cynicism toward such figures, particularly given the blatant corruption associated with many of them.

What qualities should a political role model embody if politics is understood as an arena of tragic choices rather than moral heroism?

I admire political figures who are honest with the public about the challenges and difficult decisions they face, clearly explaining the arguments on both sides. Politicians too often speak to the public as if they are children. Treating people as adults and explaining difficult choices openly is something politicians should strive for.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, the UK’s chief scientists at the time, Chris Whitty and Patrick Vallance, who had extremely visible public roles through daily briefings, exemplified how to do this well. They explained the nuances of the situation, as well as the limits of what they knew, and in doing so gained significant public support and respect.

Can a politician be an effective role model while routinely engaging in morally troubling compromises, and how should this be explained to students?

A politician can still be effective while engaging in compromises. What matters most is that they explain clearly why they are compromising and remain upfront and honest about the constraints they face. If, for example, you are not taking as strong a line on Trump’s foreign policy as you would ideally like, it is important to explain candidly why—perhaps pointing to the risk of severe economic harm.

People tend to respect honesty about difficult choices, even if they would personally make different decisions. By contrast, papering over hard choices and pretending that what you are doing is ideal often leads to cynicism and distrust, even when the compromise may in fact be justified by information that has not been disclosed.

To what extent should political education aim to motivate political participation rather than simply sharpen critical judgment?

I believe that education should primarily focus on sharpening critical judgement. Doing so can improve the quality of decision-making regardless of where a student falls on the political spectrum. I do not believe that education should primarily aim to motivate political participation, which can risk becoming exclusionary toward those who hold different views. There are other avenues through which political engagement can develop, and students are often motivated to pursue it themselves.

How do you address students’ fear that ethical engagement in politics will inevitably lead to moral failure or hypocrisy?

I try to help students think carefully about what we mean by moral failure and hypocrisy, and whether acting hypocritically is always wrong. Sometimes it is better to act—even in the face of accusations of hypocrisy—than to do nothing at all.

I have taught the topic of hypocrisy in international politics for about ten years, and every year I am struck by how students’ views evolve. Many initially see hypocrisy as a major moral failing, but by the end of the course they are often less concerned once they understand the issue more fully.

Is there a risk that emphasizing moral responsibility in politics discourages participation by making the costs of action seem too high?

Famously, the George W. Bush administration refused to include the notion of a “responsibility” to respond to mass atrocities in the final agreement at the 2005 UN World Summit because they feared it might oblige them to act in atrocity situations around the world, including in cases where they had no clear political interests.

However, I believe that emphasising moral responsibility—alongside political and legal responsibility—is vital in order to pressure states and other actors to do what they ought to do. Highlighting the abdication of responsibility allows actors to be criticised for standing by; it imposes reputational costs, even if they sometimes choose to bear those costs. At the very least, it makes inaction harder to justify.

Moreover, the cost of action is rarely too high when one recognises that fulfilling responsibilities can take many forms and does not simply mean military intervention.

Looking ahead, what kind of political role models would be most likely to inspire students to engage seriously, critically, and ethically in public life?

Students tend to be drawn to role models who communicate clearly and who are not seen as hypocritical or overly willing to compromise with power. At times, such figures are not necessarily the most effective politicians, and there can be an attraction to those who engage in virtue-signalling or publicity stunts. Nonetheless, these figures can play an important role in inspiring students to overcome cynicism about public life.

Those who treat the public as adults and attempt to explain difficult decisions honestly—even at the risk of being misquoted or misrepresented—are the ones most likely to inspire serious and thoughtful engagement in public life.

Has there been a book, film, or work of art that significantly influenced the way you see the world or think about your work?

Factfulness by Hans Rosling. It is a brilliant book that challenges many of the preconceptions we often hold about the state of the world. Even well-educated people can make mistaken, overly negative, and sometimes patronising assumptions about global development, particularly regarding the Global South.

Using data, the book powerfully demonstrates that although there is still enormous room for improvement, global conditions are often better than we perceive and significant progress has been made in many areas. This perspective is important because it challenges the temptation to fall into pessimism or fatalism.

Looking at younger generations today, what gives you the greatest sense of hope, and what concerns you the most?

What gives me the greatest hope is that, in my experience, young people today are generally more socially aware and kinder than my generation, and they tend to be more motivated and concerned about the world. Over the twenty years that I have been teaching, students have become noticeably more engaged: they attend classes more regularly, read more, and care more about their work.

My biggest concern is the potential deskilling that might arise from overreliance on AI, particularly the loss of the ability to write carefully and precisely. These skills will remain essential for critically evaluating AI-generated outputs and for working productively with such technologies.

If you could spend a full day with any historical figure, who would you choose, and what questions would you want to ask them?

I would choose Mahatma Gandhi. I would want to understand more about the sources of his selflessness, the influences that shaped him, and how he responded to the many challenges he faced.

If you were asked to teach a class on a subject completely unrelated to your profession, what would it be, and what would you hope students take away from it?

I would teach a class on perception biases in sport. I watch a great deal of sport, particularly lower-league football, and I often find myself frustrated by how fans make judgments based largely on aesthetic impressions. Referees, coaches, and managers are frequently criticised unfairly, with many people succumbing to well-known cognitive biases identified in psychology and the social sciences.

In such a class, I would discuss financial constraints in sport, the data underlying performance, the biases we all hold, and common misunderstandings of the rules.

If you could ensure that one human value is never lost in society, which value would you choose, and why?

Critical, deep thinking. Much of the recent rise in populism globally has involved a move away from careful, critical thought in favour of simplistic and often emotionally driven answers. Thinking deeply and critically about complex issues is essential if we are to address the global challenges we face and will continue to face over the coming century.

Humanity is facing radical changes. To name just ten: geopolitical instability, climate change, economic inequalities, technological risks, public health challenges, political polarization, resource scarcity, humanitarian crises, misinformation, and disparities in global healthcare access. If, in an imaginative exercise, you had the power to solve one of these problems, which one would you choose first and why?

I have actually co-written a book on this topic. The book, Prioritizing Global Responsibilities, examines how we should prioritise among the many global challenges we face. We argue that addressing global diseases and climate change should be the highest priorities.

This is because doing so would save the greatest number of lives and because those most affected by these problems are often among the most disadvantaged people in the world, making it the fairest course of action. Although I have spent much of my career focusing on atrocities and conflict, the number of people who die each year from these causes—while each death is tragic—is far smaller than the number who die from preventable diseases or are affected by climate change. The scale of suffering in these areas is enormous, yet public attention is often drawn to issues that provoke a more immediate emotional reaction.

What do you believe human beings owe one another, both as individuals and as members of a global society?

I believe we owe one another duties to address major sources of human suffering and to reduce inequalities.

Interviews often focus on successes. Could you share something from 2025 that did not unfold as you expected, and what that experience taught you?

Although it is rarely spoken about, academia is full of rejection. Like every other year, in 2025 I received multiple rejections from journals and funding bodies. Even now, each rejection still stings, but it also makes successes more meaningful.

I try to celebrate each achievement—such as the acceptance of a paper—by doing something small but rewarding, like going out for dinner or buying something I would not normally purchase, such as a new pair of running shoes. Otherwise, academia can be a profession with very few moments of celebration.

Are there any personal or professional goals you feel comfortable sharing for 2026?

I am a keen amateur runner and began running much more during the COVID-19 pandemic. After dealing with several injuries over the past couple of years, I have recently had a relatively injury-free period and would like to improve some of my personal best times. One long-standing goal is to run a half marathon in under 79 minutes.

When you imagine the final moments of your life, what kind of news would you most hope to hear, and why?

I would hope to hear that global emissions had fallen dramatically, that global temperatures had stabilised, that effective treatments were being widely provided for some of the world’s worst diseases, and that my family was safe, healthy, and happy.